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Sunday, April 15, 2007

Getting back to basics....

It's been a while since I made much mention of tactical voting if one was to want an SNP-led administration rather than a Labour-led administration. Ok, so it's been a while since I made a mention of anything but April is proving to be a hectic month...!

So, to keep this blog ticking over and to maybe concentrate the minds of any wavering voters who have decided above all else that they want a change of government, here's my rundown of seats where a tactical vote would be useful for the SNP.


Edinburgh Pentlands - Should be a safe seat for David McLetchie anyway but with Labour expected to finish 2nd and the SNP somewhat out of the running, then a tactical vote here would be beneficial

Edinburgh South - A very slim majority for Mike Pringle to defend, it could be very important that he gets some non-Lib Dem support to hold off the challenge of Labour's Donald Anderson.

Ayr - John Scott of the COnservatives should win this seat, a challenge from Labour is expected so some tactical voting here would be useful

Dumfries - It pains me to do it as I'm a big fan of Mike Russell but in the interests of beating Labour, a vote for Murray Tosh is recommended as he is better placed to oust Elaine Murray.

Eastwood - A Conservative target seat is being contested by Jackson Carlaw. I don't see an SNP win here so voting for Jackson could cause a big upset for Kenneth MacIntosh of Labour.

Strathkelvin and Bearsden - A no-brainer here, vote for Jean Turner to have one First Past the Post independent in Holyrood. David Whitton provides a strong challenge for Labour and I suspect Jean will need a lot of support from the other parties. Given that she is now an MSP, people may give her candidature the attention it deserved in 2003.

Greenock and Inverclyde - A vote for Ross Finnie here is my suggestion. Duncan MacNeail stands for Labour.


And that's it for First Past the Post. If people have any other suggestions then by all means get in touch. In particular, if I am suggesting a vote for another party when infact the SNP do have a real chance for some reason, then please let me know.


With regard to the regional vote, I am not expecting the SNP to get any regional MSPs in the North East so I really hope that SNP-voters have the foresight to vote for the Greens or Lib Dems or SSP or Tories or whoever. Stacking up their share of the votes will reduce the number of Labour candidates getting in (currently sitting at 3).

There are no regions where the SNP only get 1 MSP through the regional vote so I suspect North East will be the only region where a tactical second vote given to another party is worth it.

13 comments:

Scottish Tory Boy said...

What about a tactical vote to dislodge Trish Godman in Renfrewshire West? There is surely every chance that Goldie can take that seat, with all her national coverage et all, as after all, national coverage helped McLetchie the last time around.

Jeff said...

Yes, I had that frame of mind myself and still think that Miss Goldie has more than a decent chance.

I have however been convinced that the SNP surge has extended to West Renfrewshire and rather than tactically vote for Annabel to oust Trish Godman, there's no reason to suggest that the SNP candidate can't do the job him/herself!

Definitely one to consider though, a local opinion would be very welcome there as it's a tough one to call from here in Portobello ;)


Incidentally Tory Boy, what would you prefer, an SNP or a Labour administration?

Scottish Toryboy said...

Oh that's just the lesser of two evils is it not Jeff? Haha.

I would have to say Labour to be honest. I speak to a number of people while out and about canvassing and many see the Nats as a dangerous party, wouldn't you agree that it is the Lib Dems that are the dangerous ones? No morals and just hungry for power.

Anonymous said...

Jeff -

Once again I read a posting on your blog and am left wondering how this is supposed to be SNP tactical voting.

You seem more interested in anti-Labour tactical voting to be quite frank. I don't necessarily say that there is anything wrong in that, but it does mean that your website is a bit of a misnomer.

How about this for SNP tactical voting...all SNP supporters to vote SNP.

It is getting a bit demoralising working at the front line to come and read "assistance" as is offered on your blog to be quite frank with you!

Scottish Toryboy said...

Anon, it is SNP Tactical Voting as, take Dumfries as an example, the SNP have no chance of winning yet if the SNP voters were to vote Tory they would stand a chance of getting rid of the Labour MSP and thus depleting the numbers of the Labour group. What do you not understand about that?

Jeff said...

Anonymous,

Tory boy kind of made my point for me but in the last election I would have had a pretty solid rant against someone who said they were voting tactically so I take your point. And I honestly wouldn't mind a Labour administration so much if only they were bringing through some fresh faces in the party.

If you are campaigning in one of the seats I've just mentioned then I can see why you are frustrated. The difference between us may be, I don't really mind if the SNP don't win every single seat, just so long as they win overall. Or put another way, I don't really mind if the SNP don't win the specific seat that you live in/are campaigning in.


I also quite happily admit that there are some constituencies where on some level I would rather a Labour/Try/Lib Dem win than an SNP win. I am not a member of any party so I am arguably more free to cheer on the Iain Grays, Wendy Alexanders and Derek Brownlees who I think can do a really good job for Scotland.


I would also say that the work that you are doing on the front-line is bound to dwarf whatever warblings I post up here, so don't lose heart too much!

All the best.



(I am interested in which seat you are helping to contest...)


PS One last point, in the 2003 election, would you not say that from a Labour point of view the list votes in Glasgow would have been better placed elsewhere? That despite being a Labour die-hard, there was no benefit to voting Labour in that regional side of the election?

Jeff said...

Tory boy,

I don't really mind the Lib Dems, I think Nicol Stephen needs to find more of a cutting edge but I do get the impression that he is pretty good behind the scenes.

As long as people vote based on what they believe in then they have my respect. Labour, in that regard, are sadly lacking...

(Granted, that's a bit fascist of me claiming to know what they believe in but hopefully any readers know where I'm coming from...)

Scottish Toryboy said...

If I was Tavish Scott I'd be majorly fucked off, he is clearly a better politician than Nicol 'I'm not really to clued up on our manifesto and policies' Stephen.

Scottish Toryboy said...

I created a blog if you fancy a look

http://scottishtoryboy.blogspot.com/

Anonymous said...

hello Toryboy/Jeff -

It is me, anonymous here again!

Let us take Dumfries for example.

Let us say a Tory wins.

Just another Brit unionist quisling. Why does it benefit the SNP and independence cause to knock out one type of unionist traitor to have another variety elected.

I am in the SNP for independence, not to reduce the number of Labour politicians.

So actually, you both have made my point for me.

This blog is effectively an anti-Labour tactical voting site. It has little to do with being a pro-SNP tactical voting site.

Like I said, that is all well and good, but doesn't the site name mislead slightly?

Anonymous said...

A tactical vote for Annabelle Goldie is a complete waste of time.

She has not a snowball in hell's chance of winning, & deep down Tory Boy knows it - he just wants his candidate to beat the other two. There are more important considerations than the "Strong second" for a party's pride to think about.

A lot of Tory voters (particularly in areas where they're used to tactically voting SNP or Lib Dem to keep Labour out) will be voting SNP as the best bet of getting rid of Godawfulman (who even by Labour standards has been the biggest waste of space outside of a certain Govan MSP), knowing Annabelle will safely get in on the list seat.

The one good thing about the middle classes is they have long memories if you piss them off, & many still remember the way their seat was originally gerrymandered to make it safe Labour.

Now the chance for revenge is in their grasp: do you honestly think they won't seize it out of sentimental loyalty to the moribund West of Scotland Tories only seen at election time?

Scottish Toryboy said...

It has nothing to do with me wanting my candidate to beat the other day and everything to do with national exposure. She gets a bloody great deal of media coverage due to her role as leader and look at how favourable she is being portrayed in the media. I am not saying she will do it, I am merely saying that I think this is her best chance of doing it.

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