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Monday, August 13, 2007

Empty chairs at empty tables


Remember those halcyon days where you wanted to be at the table when those really tall people were having proper discussions about serious things? Even if you only got to sit there quietly when you should have been in bed you'd be delighted to just listen as the tones changed from that baby-talk you wished they'd stop doing to you months ago to the mature, reasoned and often passionate dialogue.

For many, that desire to be involved wears off fairly quickly as teenage years kick in but for those destined to be politicians I would imagine they would always want to be at the cutting edge of, or at least in the same room as, whatever debate was on the table.

Putting arguments forward, assessing arguments coming their way, conjecture, theory, big picture, detail, detail, detail. It's what should get the politician's juices flowing. And if they fail to win the argument of the day from those bothering to tune in to watch, they take it on the chin and accept that democracy is the overall winner.

The current debate of the day seems to involve the 3 basic options Scotland has ahead of her: independence, more powers for the devolved Holyrood or keeping the status quo. And to pick which is the best option you need a debate, though the current favoured option seems to clearly be more powers for Holyrood but falling significantly short of full independence.

I can't help but wonder therefore, with such a debate on the table, where the political instincts have gone for the Labour, Tory and Lib Dem politicians?

Why does the unionist majority choose to bury their head in the sand? Of particular bemusement is the Lib Dem and Tory refusal to speak up for the "more powers for Holyrood" option which they seemed to be desirous of before the election. What has changed? If I had voted for either of these parties then I would be very put out indeed. But then, had I voted for either of these parties I would also be a monkey's uncle and the months would have rather more Sundays than they had before.


The joint statement from the unionist parties today damning the SNP for having the audacity to publish a white paper on independence was presumably designed to be a showing of strength but, unfortunately, their poor choice of language lets them down.


Scaremongering with no detail and no reasoned argument has become the tired response from each of the SNP's rivals with regard to independence. Without a structured approach to this issue, an issue that's not going anywhere fast, the SNP can only gain ground from voters who will surely see the unionists as being lazy and childish. (As an example, opposing a white paper before it is published means you're either being immature or don't have the gumption to actually read the thing)

Labour, Lib Dem and Conservative members need to dig deep and set out the real benefits that the "union dividend" will bring. And they also have to decide if they do want more powers for Holyrood or not. They talk of the SNP bringing instability and confusuion and yet noone really knows any more what it is these 3 parties actually want for Scotland going forward 10, 20, 50 years into the future.


So to go back to the opening scene, Alex Salmond and his colleagues appear to be waiting at the empty dining table in the ever-dimming evening light, waiting for the debate to begin and wondering if their adversaries would really rather avoid this grown-up chat altogether.

7 comments:

Anonymous said...

Sorry Jeff but as a former Tory I've had years of having the slur hurled at me that I'm 'anti-Scottish' any time I've disagreed with the SNP and you're telling me know that a reasoned conversation needs to take place?

The SNP is just getting the same kind of barracking it dishes out to others for the benefit of the headlines. Is this good for politics? No. But I bet it won't stop any of the parties doing it.

Jeff said...

I wouldn't for a second suggest someone was anti-Scottish, as if anyone could ever have a monopoly on what that entails. There are massive risks associated with independence and if being truly Scottish involves being reckless with the country's future then count me out. All I'm talking about is having a debate about what powers Holyrood should have. Enough 'experts' have disagreed with the status quo to suggest it's time to talk on this subject.

Do you not agree that today (let's forget whatever past you have experienced) the SNP appear the reasonable party on this issue and the others have thrown the toys out the pram a little bit?

And do you think today's headlines will benfit or hinder the 3 unionist parties? I would suggest the latter given Alex's clever positioning.

The only way to win this one, as I see it, is to not only dance to Alex's tune, but out-dance him. Right now, Annabel, Nicol and Jack are nothing more than wallflowers.

They need to bring something to the table other than negative scaremongering. We fairweather unionists are itching for it.

Anonymous said...

Sorry Jeff, I didn't mean to imply that you were the one shouting 'anti-scottish' but I've seen numerous conservative initiatives shouted down on that basis alone by the SNP and I just find it a but rich to be expected to be all grown up when the SNP decides that's OK.

I think the Unionist parties know that if they want to make an impact they need to do it today to get coverage - they're not going to get any coverage from tomorrow afternoon/Wednesday so they need to do it today to get noticed. If this means condemning something before they've seen it then so be it - I'm sure we can all guess roughly what the white paper would be saying anyway! So it's a choice between throwing their toys out of the pram or getting noticed...and have you ever known a politician that doesn't want to be noticed?

Jeff said...

No worries, I didn't get the impression you were suggesting that, it just struck me as an odd opening to your comment.

You do seem to suggest that you've been waiting for ages for the SNP to grow up and, now that they have, it's your turn to be childish. I don't think i need to point out where that sort of thinking falls down....


I take your point though, the timing is good, I just think the message is all wrong. I can't imagine the average person will be impressed by their joint statement.

I also just find the unionist chat depressingly negative at the moment; had it been more positive during the election they probably wouldn't have an SNP administration to contend with.

And I say "depressingly" as despite liking the SNP, I think I would vote no to independence at the current time but I would like to see MSPs putting forward a better argument than just sticking their fingers in their ears at the mere mention of the idea.

julie said...

Way I look at it, I would like to see the SNP make the best use of the powers already there, and they are considerable. The Scottish Parliament has control of health,education and fisheries, which is a big area for Scotland; 70% of fisheries are in Scotland.

It's true the block grant imposes a limit on what can be done, but there is plenty of scope. Let them prove themselves first. Let them use what powers they have, well, and then maybe talk about going further.

Jeff said...

Fair enough, it's hard to argue against that Julie.

The only real change I would like to see is a real drop in corporation tax in Scotland to see if it would stimulate private sector jobs.

The increased income tax, increased number of businesses and higher profits (arguably) would justify such a move.


But aside from that, seeing the SNP continue their good work over the medium term must be priority number 1. I hope this national conversation doesn't make them take their eye off the ball.

That's assuming our ball is the same as their ball of course....

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