
Well, let's be honest, it wasn't a car crash. A bit sweaty, but not a disaster.
In terms of the detail, I'm almost hesitant to talk about it as the fact that Andrew Marr asked the Prime Minister if he's on anti-depressants could be all this interview is known for going forward.
Despite clear shock and disgust at being asked the question, Brown was big enough to answer it and even gracefully suggest Marr was right to ask it but come on, surely we have boundaries and a person's medical and mental situation is way beyond them.
So poor form from Andrew Marr and I suspect the time he has remaining hosting this show has just decreased drastically.
Anyway, that's by the by. The detail of the interview was typically bland sad to say. Lots of chat that's just blah from our uninspiring leader.
Some key forgettable quotes:
"I'm going to tell you. We have a fiscal reduction plan.... Publish our figures in the pre-budget report that will show how we will protect front line services"
"my fight is for the future of Britain"
"we need to be less responsible and more responsible"
The biggest news was perhaps the announcement of "a business and financial services act that will ban the old bonuses". I'm not entirely sure how that will work and there was precious little detail coming from the PM but it's a tangible move rather than just the words that other party leaders have put forward, in this country and beyond.
Marr asked Brown about Megrahi:
"As a Scottish MP, what do you think of the release of Megrahi"
Brown said he wouldn't change anything which won't displease the Scottish Government too much. Speaking of which, I did enjoy how Gordon initially called it the 'Scottish Executive' only to later follow Marr's lead (after the PM's hackles were raised) in going with the 'Scottish Government'.
Brown was at his strongest when talking about the economy and the recession and, to be fair, it should be the only show in town going into this election. The line "at every point in this economic downturn we made the right choice" should be on every leaflet and every placard Labour has out there. Could Labour still win if we think, well, we don't like the PM much but at least they made the right decisions at the crucial time? They probably should.
There was an interesting exchange where Brown said Marr's figures were wrong, quoted his own (which were presumably right) and then later went on to say that no figures are ever definite.
Marr then pushed Brown hard on his lowest poll ratings. "You must look yourself in the mirror and think, am I really the man for this job?" and "are there any circumstances in which you would stand aside?"
Brown seemed to suggest his low poll ratings are because of the MPs expenses scandal and the public not knowing if we are past the worst of the credit crunch. Difficult to believe that somehow but an understandable answer. Noone likes admitting they're just a bit out of their depth.
Overall, I doubt the interview will make much of a difference to those poll ratings and despite how he allegedly comes across in person (as a fun, nice guy), I just think Gordon's main problem is that he doesn't come over as a likeable person.
So all in all, I still think that Gordon Brown's best bet to win votes over this weekend is to do a Kinnock-style dunk in the sea. Bit of banter never hurt anyone...
UPDATE - Interesting to see that despite near-unanimous support for Gordon Brown on the 'health' questions that were tossed his way, Labour councillor and popular blogger Bob Piper goes somewhat the other way,bizarrely drawing comparisons with Jed Bartlett's MS in The West Wing.
Brown, who up to that stage had appeared to be answering Marr's economic questions with no real difficulty, suddenly appeared shaken, and the sweat on his brow increased dramatically, making it look distinctly worse.
It may well have just been the personal, and slightly intrusive nature of Andrew Marr's question. But Brown's answer seemed somewhat less than confident to me.
Not exactly 'full-throated support' as Leo McGarry would say...
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Jeff!
How could you have missed the bit where the Kluncking LIAR says that Labour have helped all those people struggling with their mortgages via their "Special Fund" (the name of which escapes me at present).
In fact the fund, which cost several millions to set up, has helped a grand total of . . . . wait for it . . . . EIGHT families.
That's right; just 8 families - at that kind of cost to the taxpayer, he could have simply paid off their mortgages for them and STILL saved the taxpayer money.
Another "Brownie" . . . or . . . LIE, as the rest of us would call it.
I completely missed it. I may have been rescuing my poached eggs at that point.
Another wasted venture, while we're on the subject.
I slept through it Jeff and was grateful for your summary.
The health issue is difficult. Of course people's health is private but the UK Prime Minister does adopt a presidential style of leadership, and supposedly has his finger on the "button".
Other "presidents" with that power, at least in the democracies, have health checks which are made public. I read that Mitterrand's doctors were censured for not revealing his cancer. I don't think that, given the rumours that Brown is seriously depressed, Marr's question was too unreasonable.
I think too that there should be another show in town this week; that of the war. We or rather they are sending people to die with insufficient and below par gear...
The government tell us that everything is fine, but the Generals are starting to tell us something different...with their feet.
I hope that Aintworth will be explaining this anomaly.
Marr had every right to ask the PM about his health, especially since so many rumours are rife in the MSM.
If Brown had broken his leg Marr would have asked him how he was feeling, so what's the difference?
Ah, mental health isn't always visible, although if Brown's body language was anything to go by, he clearly has an anxiety problem if nothing else.
Tris,
good point, the Afghanistan War is a major issue (if you pardon the pun). I still reckon the economy is the biggest ticket item, particularly as there isn't much between the Conservatives and Labour in terms of policy on the War (as far as I know)
But I wouldn't equate depression with cancer and I certainly wouldn't equate it with a broken leg Subrosa.
It wasn't a cheerful, 'how's the mental health Gordon?' that Andy Marr was tossing his way as you suggest so I reckon there's a big difference.
Also, should leading journalists act on internet rumours irrespective of what those rumours are? I personally don't think so.
It was good to see a journalist asking a question that made a politician uneasy, made even deviating from the script prepared by the No10 spin doctors! The politicians treat these interviews as soundbite moments of late. In the past journalists regularly made politicians sweat and uneasy with almost every question being a difficult one.
The public has a right to know if the leader of our country has an illness that affects his ability to do the job. I'm not against people with mental health issues leading the country, only those who may seek to lie about it and deceive the country.
In general the interview was full of lies, half truths and spin. No wonder the public are sick of politicians.
Must admit Jeff, I can't see any convincing reasons to vote Labour at the next GE. I personally think that Brown's handling of the economy has been wrong-headed (before and during recession).
I think Iain McWhirter's take on the upcoming Labour conference is bang on the money.
http://iainmacwhirter2.blogspot.com/2009/09/labour-conference-is-funeral-of-social.html
Gordon Brown with clinical depression, Its no wonder when for years he tries to get the top job to find out the poisonous chalice it was. He leads a party with two almost diverging wings and the world fell apart.
But being asked is he losing his sight is he taking anti depressants is a very nasty personal attack.
Jeff,
I take your point that there's not much to pick and choose between the Tories and Labour over the war. (I'm not sure that there will be much difference over the economy once in reality.) I just think that Aintworth should be explaining to his party, and to us, why he and Brown are saying one thing and the Generals are saying something else. (In some cases at the cost of their careers, so it's not just spite.)
On the health issue I accept that mental health is a delicate matter, but I feel that if this man has serious mental health problems and in theory at least, he can blow half the world up with his/our nuclear weapons, we need to know about it.
Although you're probably right. Andrew Marr is not the one to do it, and national tv on a Sunday morning is not the right place. Point conceded!
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