The news that there is strong support for rewiring the existing Forth Road Bridge as opposed to simply building another one is surprising but very welcome. The £2.3bn (and the rest) that has been earmarked for the new bridge should be seen as an excellent opportunity to investment a heck of a lot of money elsewhere.
I should say that in the past James has been quick to say that when a rival party does polling they pay their money and they get the answer they were looking for so it would be remiss of me not to suggest that this could very well be the case with this Scottish Green Party, Friends of the Earth and Forthright Alliance co-commissioned poll. Furthermore, for this poll there seems to be a suggestion that the sample population was more or less asked 'Would you rather your Government spent £122m or £2.3bn?' when most individuals perhaps won't fully understand the engineering concepts that underpin the question.
However, James and I do agree 'up to our elbows' on this particular topic so I am happy to believe that the Scottish population are beginning to see through the white elephant that is the additional Forth Road Bridge, even the SNP supporters over 50% of whom prefer repairing rather than replacing. And, despite not being an egnineer myself, I have read a fair bit of the detail of the issue and the question does indeed pretty much boil down to whether we'd rather spend a couple of hundred million or a few billion.
Granted, a few billions gets us two bridges as opposed to one with the hundred million but a very quick value for money calculation clearly shows the single road bridge approach is best.
Taking a wider view, one aspect of transport policy that I have found intriguing is the spending on the rail network vs the spending on motorways.
It is surely generally accepted that the preferred long-term solution for travel across the UK is not more and more cars, it's not cheaper and cheaper flights, it's not bigger and bigger bridges but smoother, greener, affordable rail travel.
However, as far as I am aware, investment in the rail network comes out of the profits of the private companies that run the rail franchises which means, in turn, that users of the railway pay for improvements to the track through ticket prices and fines. We've already seen the first £1,000+ rail fare and the Government has promised high increases in fares when it takes over the East Coast line. Perhaps the increase in fares is inevitable given the mess National Express made of the operation but if the semi-nationalisation of the trains goes down as a missed opportunity then it will be unforgivable at this absolutely crucial juncture in our long-term approach to how we get around.
So far, the news that Glaswegians won't be able to get a direct rail service to London doesn't bode well for the UK Government's strategy. Honestly, how long can those poor people in the West stomach being ripped off by a party they've returned to power decade after decade? I guess we'll find out on Thursday...
In terms of our road network (not to mention seemingly unnecessary £2.3bn bridges), funding comes from our taxes and not just road taxes. So those who don't drive, indeed those who go out of their way to ensure that they follow the long-term public transport solution rather than a short-term quick fix of a shiny new car, are heavily penalised.
Surely it is preferable to have roads improved strictly from road taxes and use the public money that had hitherto been paving the way for new motorways up and down the country to increase the investment in the rail track and reduce train fares? If it means motorways improve at a snail pace then so be it. The area that needs a fast-track solution is rail travel.
For a start, we can do away with the price elasticity system as favoured by Megabus and Easyjet. When one buys a train ticket one shouldn't need a super-duper advanced saver to get a decent deal. We should simply divide the cost of the service by the number of seats on the carriages and make that the price of a ticket, regardless of whether one purchases it 1 year or 1 day before travel. And we should increase the number of carriages to keep the prices as low as possible while we're at it.
If those who were horrified at the decision to scrap GARL truly do believe that the provision of 1-mile of track for 1300 jobs is a worthwhile investment to make at this time then let them reproduce the investment on a UK-wide scale and make the improvements that were sadly lacking over the past few decades. Meanwhile, the boast from the SNP that it is ploughing hundreds of millions into the M74 extension seems rather hollow to me given how wasteful that money sounds. We should not be stretching our purse strings to breaking point to appease frustrated drivers when the overall strategy should be to get them out of their cars.
Turning a 4-lane into a 6-lane (or whatever the project involves) and the induced traffic that will inevitably follow is exacerbating a problem that neither the Scottish nor the UK Government nor even the UK Goverment-in-waiting seem intent on tackling head on. Are the tax receipts from petrol so vital to our public coffers that a sensible environmental policy is simply unaffordable? It seems that is the conclusion that has been drawn by all and sundry.
Let's leave no-frills investment to Michael O'Leary, let's leave vanity projects to Donald Trump, let's leave 8-lane superhighways to the highways and let's get serious about a real, lasting solution to sustainable transport by focussing squarely on affordable rail travel.
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Good points there - rail should be a major investment point, for green and anti-congestion purposes. You have to wonder this has not been so. The Daily Mail/car lobby? Either way, it's criminal to have a thousand-pound rail fare.
I had a job where I commuted to Edinburgh from Stirling daily. There were only two carriages, so half the people had to stand. What nonsense is that?
NEW SCOTTISH POLL link:
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/politics/salmond-poll-blow-as-voters-shun-snp-1.931344
Jeff, can you explain the absolutely VAST discrepancy between Westminster and Holyrood voting intention? I can't!
(see also this morning's thread at politicalbetting.com)
"The news that Glaswegians won't be able to get a direct rail service to London doesn't bode well for the UK Government's strategy. Honestly, how long can those poor people in the West stomach being ripped off by a party they've returned to power decade after decade? I guess we'll find out on Thursday..."
Jeff, maybe I misread the story on Saturday, but isn't it just the east coast line that won't have a direct London-Glasgow service? The west coast line will still run from Euston to Glasgow, so to say there will be no direct service is misleading.
Dammit, i gambled putting that Glasgow London-link bit in as I hadn't read the story. If that other link is still on from Glasgow then it's prob a sensible cost cutter, particularly with Gla-Edi rail link improvements.
Stuart, my take on that poll is timed for lunch time. It is an odd mix of good and bad news for team SNP tho.
Jeff/Stuart I was called at home about 10days ago - I missed the introduction and the caller went on to ask me two questions. First one was who I would vote for in a Holyrood election, the second question was as SNP cant win a Westminster election who would I vote for from the three main parties.
Obviously open to interpretation.
Was this the poll???
The proposed crossing will be additional to the existing road bridge. The exist one would then be used for public transport and the additionaly bridge will have a reduced scope and cost.
The idea being to prolong the life of the existing bridge and open up more public transport options across the Forth.
Was this info part of the polling or did it sound like the existing bridge was going to be knocked down?
That's all very well but the problem is that "frustrated drivers" constitute the majority of the population.
Obviously people would prefer repairing the existing road bridge to building a new one.
Can you absolutely guarantee however that this will provide a long term solution?
What happens if it doesn't?
Jeff,
Whilst you were wrong about the direct link to London, I'd like to think you had a point about the direct links to other important places such as Newcastle, Doncaster and York. For now it will be all change at Waverley....
This is another London centric approach to transport policy. Could we at least get a commitment to a High Speed Rail network that includes Glasgow and Edinburgh before we break away? Preferably including guarantees to both the East and West coast main lines?
The lack of such a commitment says more about the unionist parties true priorities than they care to admit...
Jeff, I don't think the SNP are "boasting" about the M74 extension, just trying to counter the stupid statements about Glasgow being ripped off. As if. Glasgow is a giant sponge, soaking up disproportionate amounts of public money.
Of course there are SOME valid reasons for that--decline of heavy industries etc, etc, but there is one thing for certain , it wasn't the SNP which presided over the decline and failed to solve the poverty problem.
Jeff
Improvements between Glasgow and Edinburgh are the Queen street to Waverley line.
The West coast - London trains use Glasgow Central. It's not much of a walk, but if you have cases you'd be getting a taxi - not sure if there is a shuttle bus. Either way it's not a great solution and a serious impact on journey time given the buffers you'd want to leave yourself.
The hypocrisy though is stunning. Scotland is crying out for high speed rail links South to alleviate the pressure on the air routes and reduce our carbon footprint, perhaps even remove the need for GARL and EARL...
There's no more obvious way to achieve this than to make improvements to the rail links to make journey times commensurate with air travel - easily possible in the 21st century I'd say!
Given the hassle involved in flying these days if I was one who travelled South Frequently (I'm not but my wife is!) I'd be getting the train rather than face the airports if the could get the timetable and journey times right.
Jim
When concluding the bridge isn't needed have you read what the engineers say, or what Forthright Alliance and co say they say? Even if it is fixable, there would be partial or full closures for years to do the necessary repairs - with jams and congestion for miles and the east coast economy severely damaged. That ok with you? No serious government can take such a risk.
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